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	<title>Comments on: Saul Williams download numbers</title>
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	<description>A one man band with no fans</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 13:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The numbers also didn&#039;t reflect those that may have downloaded it to sample, then came back to purchase.  This is what I did and what I do when checking out stuff from Magnatune.  I want to hear the album at least once and I think that it would be interesting to see the number of folks that came back to purchase after downloading.  I realize that those numbers couldn&#039;t possibly reflect all of the folks that had heard the album from friends and decided to purchase or download, but it would still be interesting to see the numbers.

In an interview, Reznor said that he was &quot;disheartened&quot; by the number of people who downloaded and didn&#039;t pay, but did he expect people to pay for something that they hadn&#039;t heard? I have never felt comfortable buying an album that I have no idea what to expect.  Even if it had Reznor&#039;s involvement, people want to hear it before they download.  Even 30 second samples on some services can be deceiving as to what a song can sound like.

A also agree that they probably should have had a way for the person purchasing to name their own price with a suggested price, again, similar to Magnatune.
  
I purchased the album in FLAC just as I did &quot;I Don&#039;t Know What I&#039;m Doing&quot; for archival reasons, the ability to make a CD, and for transcoding to Vorbis.  I am glad that I am seeing more artists offer files in FLAC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The numbers also didn&#8217;t reflect those that may have downloaded it to sample, then came back to purchase.  This is what I did and what I do when checking out stuff from Magnatune.  I want to hear the album at least once and I think that it would be interesting to see the number of folks that came back to purchase after downloading.  I realize that those numbers couldn&#8217;t possibly reflect all of the folks that had heard the album from friends and decided to purchase or download, but it would still be interesting to see the numbers.</p>
<p>In an interview, Reznor said that he was &#8220;disheartened&#8221; by the number of people who downloaded and didn&#8217;t pay, but did he expect people to pay for something that they hadn&#8217;t heard? I have never felt comfortable buying an album that I have no idea what to expect.  Even if it had Reznor&#8217;s involvement, people want to hear it before they download.  Even 30 second samples on some services can be deceiving as to what a song can sound like.</p>
<p>A also agree that they probably should have had a way for the person purchasing to name their own price with a suggested price, again, similar to Magnatune.</p>
<p>I purchased the album in FLAC just as I did &#8220;I Don&#8217;t Know What I&#8217;m Doing&#8221; for archival reasons, the ability to make a CD, and for transcoding to Vorbis.  I am glad that I am seeing more artists offer files in FLAC.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.bradsucks.net/archives/2008/01/03/saul-williams-download-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-253103</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 06:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought FLAC, for if I wanted to burn a CD, or something, but I immediately transcoded it into 256kbs AAC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought FLAC, for if I wanted to burn a CD, or something, but I immediately transcoded it into 256kbs AAC.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 04:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting points, Aaron. 

Though you could always suggest a default price. Magnatune&#039;s been doing this for years and I think it&#039;s a pretty good method. 

A simple &quot;Pay what you like -- recommended: $5&quot; notice or default a) wouldn&#039;t have scared off the lazy/indecisive b) would have allowed the true fans to pay more and c) would have given the remaining 126,127 consumers leeway to choose. 

Would you rather get a dollar from some percentage of 126,127 people or nothing at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting points, Aaron. </p>
<p>Though you could always suggest a default price. Magnatune&#8217;s been doing this for years and I think it&#8217;s a pretty good method. </p>
<p>A simple &#8220;Pay what you like &#8212; recommended: $5&#8243; notice or default a) wouldn&#8217;t have scared off the lazy/indecisive b) would have allowed the true fans to pay more and c) would have given the remaining 126,127 consumers leeway to choose. </p>
<p>Would you rather get a dollar from some percentage of 126,127 people or nothing at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Luchko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Luchko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 04:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the low limit might be a very clever idea.

My guess is that a lot of people want to make a contribution, but become uncomfortable above a certain price point (say X). Giving an upper limit of Y makes people feel cheap it they pay  X than they&#039;re left with the choice of exceeding their price or feeling cheap. Given this choice they&#039;re probably going to procrastinate, probably indefinitely, on paying. Setting a low, non-negotiable, price that&#039;s probably &lt; X can not only lead to additional purchases but will establish the precedent of paying for your work for those additional customers which can expand future sales.

I have no idea if the additional sales from the low price point exceeds the additional revenue from the high/no limit but given a convenient enough payment method it probably could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the low limit might be a very clever idea.</p>
<p>My guess is that a lot of people want to make a contribution, but become uncomfortable above a certain price point (say X). Giving an upper limit of Y makes people feel cheap it they pay  X than they&#8217;re left with the choice of exceeding their price or feeling cheap. Given this choice they&#8217;re probably going to procrastinate, probably indefinitely, on paying. Setting a low, non-negotiable, price that&#8217;s probably &lt; X can not only lead to additional purchases but will establish the precedent of paying for your work for those additional customers which can expand future sales.</p>
<p>I have no idea if the additional sales from the low price point exceeds the additional revenue from the high/no limit but given a convenient enough payment method it probably could.</p>
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