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	<title>Brad Sucks &#187; promotion</title>
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		<title>Contacting fans is hard</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 05:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All I&#8217;ve been doing lately is trying to promote my upcoming shows (July 31 Ottawa! August 7 Toronto!) Previously I&#8217;ve been lazy about show promotion due to insecurity and shame but desperation has once again won out. I&#8217;m pretty sensitive and protective towards people who subscribe to my mailing list. I don&#8217;t want to piss [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I&#8217;ve been doing lately is trying to promote my upcoming shows (<strong>July 31</strong> Ottawa! <strong>August 7</strong> Toronto!) Previously I&#8217;ve been lazy about show promotion due to insecurity and shame but desperation has once again won out.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sensitive and protective towards people who subscribe to my mailing list. I don&#8217;t want to piss them off with bullshit updates or waste their time. This is mostly an issue when I have an occasional show &#8211; nobody cares if there&#8217;s a show far away from them that they can&#8217;t attend and it&#8217;s annoying to get those emails. So I built this <a href="http://code.google.com/p/mappy-email-signup/">mappy email signup thing</a> which you can see on <a href="http://www.bradsucks.net/live/">my live page</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve built up a good number of email addresses in there and they&#8217;re targeted nicely. Anyone in there has specifically entered their email address and selected their location. That&#8217;s about as opt-in as it gets in this world. &#8220;Please contact me if Brad Sucks is in this area, no fooling.&#8221; </p>
<p>So while I went about contacting folks I tracked the event detail clickthroughs with a url shortener and the results were disappointing:</p>
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<td width="186"><strong>CAMPAIGN</strong></td>
<td width="150"><strong>CLICKTHROUGH RATE</strong></td>
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<td width="186">&#160;</td>
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<td width="186">Listmessenger Ottawa</td>
<td width="150">8%</td>
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<td width="186">Listmessenger Toronto</td>
<td width="150">16%</td>
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<td width="186">MailChimp Ottawa</td>
<td width="150">10%</td>
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<td width="186">MailChimp Toronto</td>
<td width="150">3%</td>
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<td width="186">Eventful Ottawa</td>
<td width="150">0%</td>
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<td width="186">Eventful Toronto</td>
<td width="150">0%</td>
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<td width="186">&#160;</td>
<td width="150">&#160;</td>
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<td width="186"><strong>TOTAL</strong></td>
<td width="150"><strong>5%</strong></td>
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<p><strong>Listmessenger</strong></p>
<p>First I sent email the way I usually do &#8212; I use <a href="http://www.listmessenger.com/">Listmessenger</a> from my server. I&#8217;ve had suspicions for some time that my mail was not getting to most people on the mailing list but I didn&#8217;t have anything super important going on so I didn&#8217;t stress about it. </p>
<p>The clickthrough rate for Ottawa was 8% and 16% for Toronto. From what I can see that&#8217;s not a bad rate for your average semi-spammy email list. But again &#8211; this one is as targeted as it gets. Why isn&#8217;t it much, much higher?</p>
<p><strong>Eventful</strong></p>
<p>I have a decent number of demands over on Eventful. I&#8217;ve bitched before that they don&#8217;t give me access to my demanders&#8217; email addresses (and was laughed at by the CEO for the suggestion I should have them if Eventful gets access to them). I sent out mail to my fans in areas in and around Ottawa and Toronto. For Ottawa and Toronto both I received <strong>zero</strong> clickthroughs. For Toronto I got <strong>1</strong>. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty shocked at that. What&#8217;s the deal? Did the emails bounce? Are the addresses invalid? Are the Eventful emails getting marked as spam? I have no way to know. You fire your message to people who have demanded you in the area and that&#8217;s that. Hope for the best.</p>
<p>Anyway I&#8217;ve put the Eventful widget up places (including my live page) thinking it couldn&#8217;t hurt but I think I&#8217;m done with that. No point gathering fans through a service if I can&#8217;t reach them.</p>
<p><strong>MailChimp</strong></p>
<p>Frustrated with these results I signed up for <a href="http://www.mailchimp.com">MailChimp</a>. It&#8217;s a pay mailing list service that&#8217;s been highly recommended to me and they appear to have a great reputation. My best guess was that ISPs were maybe shitcanning my emails? Anyway, I bought some credits and sent out apologetic new versions of the emails to the same lists (removing anyone who replied that I knew had received the emails).</p>
<p>This time Ottawa got a clickthrough rate of 10% and Toronto got 3%. So it got me some extra eyeballs but it wasn&#8217;t a huge improvement.</p>
<p><strong>In the end</strong></p>
<p>&#160;<img style="border-bottom: 0px; border-left: 0px; display: block; float: none; margin-left: auto; border-top: 0px; margin-right: auto; border-right: 0px" title="fan-pie" border="0" alt="fan-pie" src="http://www.bradsucks.net/images/Contactingfansishard_10E16/fanpie.jpg" width="421" height="408" /> </p>
<p>Out of all the fans in and around Toronto and Ottawa who voluntarily gave me their locations I have been able to contact only <strong>5%</strong>. Awful.</p>
<p>Of course I feel bad for selfish reasons &#8211; I want these shows to go well, I want lots of people to come out, I want them to be a success. I&#8217;ve rented the club in Toronto and I&#8217;d like to not lose money. And psychologically a lot is riding on them for me. These will likely determine if I go ahead with some tour plans next year.</p>
<p>But I also feel like I&#8217;m letting these folks down. They&#8217;ve specifically asked me to tell them if I&#8217;m playing near them, which is such a nice thing for them to ask. I&#8217;ve promised to tell them when I&#8217;m in town and now I feel like I&#8217;m not able to hold up my end of the deal. That sucks and I have no idea what to do about it.</p>
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		<title>Promotion suggestions?</title>
		<link>http://www.bradsucks.net/archives/2008/08/20/promotion-suggestions/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So the dark, paralyzing fear of having a new album coming out shortly is that maybe nobody will listen to it! So I pose you this question: If you were (or are) an independent musician with a very limited budget and a new alternative/rock-style album scheduled for release in a few weeks, where and how [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the dark, paralyzing fear of having a new album coming out shortly is that maybe nobody will listen to it! So I pose you this question:</p>
<p><em>If <strong>you</strong> were (or <strong>are</strong>) an independent musician with a very limited budget and a new alternative/rock-style album scheduled for release in a few weeks, where and how would you promote it? </em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m mostly looking for places/people to send/pitch it to, but I&#8217;ll appreciate more elaborate or imaginative suggestions.</p>
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